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Letters On ink
How using third party ink can save you money
One
element of the inkjet cartridge refill process you forgot to mention
was print nozzle life. When a cartridge is reused — especially if
there is “pigment” ink in the cartridge, the worn-down nozzles can be
pushed beyond their usefulness, resulting in poorer print quality .
Once the nozzles are shot, it doesn’t matter how many times or how
carefully you refill the cartridge, your print quality will never
improve.
As you mentioned, Epson makes the print head an integrated
part of their printers, so all that needs to be replaced is the ink
tank. In their case, print head life expectancy = printer life
expectancy. Once the print head nozzles are worn out, it’s time to buy
a new printer! I believe, in Epson’s case, many of their warranty
statements list a printer life of two years, which might give you an
indication of how long the nozzles in an inkjet printer can be expected
to last. Of course, that depends entirely on your print volume, but
it’s probably a good standard to go by.Ink cartridge refills will help
to reduce the cost of printing, but it isn’t a catch-all in the long
term. One way or another, if you want to maintain good print quality,
the print head nozzles will need to be replaced. And that requires
either a new cartridge or a new printer, depending on the manufacturer.
One
thing to note is that now you can buy a color laser for a few hundred
dollars. Toners have much higher page counts, are not that much more
expensive (all things considered), and never dry out, etc. They work
until they are empty regardless of how often you use them.
Much less hassle. Better print that is *not water-soluble*.Sean
I
must warn you on point that was NOT discussed in your article. Although
you claim the photo quality out of the Epson with the generic ink you
used was fantastic (something extremely rare out of most ink-jet
printers), you failed to test its water-resistance and fade resistance.
These are the two areas where all generic inks fall down heavily over
the official ink, typically drying much slower, smudging easily, coming
right off the page with water and, most importantly, fading within a
few months. Initial photo quality alone is nothing compared to what the
photos look like in several months, or even several weeks.
Anyone who actually wants photo quality and longevity is still best off sticking with genuine ink.
A few other important notes: current Epson cartridges include microchips that make refilling the cartridges impossible.
The
class action lawsuit you referred to over Epson leaving ink in the
cartridges was dropped completely after Epson was able to prove the the
necessity of leaving ink in the cartridges.
nameless
You’ve just
discovered fire or the wheel? Hate to break this to you but BOTH have
been discovered long ago, to the point that fire is now used in what is
called an “internal combustion engine” and that, dear boy, can propel a
madman at speeds over 100+ miles per hour along something called
“something-bahn” … and that was in the 1930s.
So, not only are you
claiming a monumental discovery, but you have the gall to promote
something called DCX in page upon page of dedicated data. You may
recall that when the IBM PC first came out, they have to sloowwwly
check the memory meticulously because if you don’t and you are
launching a nuclear ballistic missile from your tiny bedroom, any
faulty memory will result in the missile being re-targeted at your
beloved neighbour, fortunate as that may be.
Now, wind forward to
the 21st century, and we have “OEM” inks, “damn cheapo yellow peril”
inks, “inks from hell”, “diseased” inks, “virulent” inks, and more. And
with the same meticulous accuracy of that IBM PC memory count, one
zooms in onto the nastiness of these non-human variants of inks to
ensure that they must be kept away from that £30 inkjet printer. We
must buy that £40 replacement, genuine, golden balls, “honoulable ahso”
imperial heavenliness inks for our £30 printer.
You are glad that
satan took away your brain so that he can do your thinking for you,
aren’t you, dahlings. I’ve even used spit in my replacement ink and the
printer still goes. What “imperial ahso” conveniently forget to inform
all is that it is the size=drying=clogging of the ever diminishing ink
nozzles that are the main cause of most inkjet problems, not those
“yellow peril” replacement inks and stop slurping the stuff that XYZ
from Uncle Sammy is feeding you. They have yet to discover food, Coney
Hotdogs excepted.
Mario,
“Unfortunately, there isn’t universal
printer support, which makes the product name a lemon. Currently, only
two printer manufacturers are supported – Canon and Epson. Canon has
two printers supported: the iP3000 and the iP4000. For Epson, the
printer support is a lot better: 1270/1280/1290 and C63/C64/C65/C66 and
R200/R210/R300/R310/RX500/RX510/RX600.”
I have been a long term fan
of canon printers. The IP3000 uses the BCI6/BCI3 color cartridges and a
BCI3 black. From the research I’ve done on the web as well as trying it
myself, the BCI3 colors are the same as the BCI6 colors. This means
that these are the same cartridges as in like all of the seperate color
canon printers.
I have had or used s750, s600, s800, ip3000, mp750,
mp780, and some others. I’m confident that because of that, the refill
kits you guys are talking about will work in older printers..
The
one point of contention that I see is that the BCI3e black IS NOT the
same as the BCI6 black. One is pigmented and one is dye, and they
should not be mixed. I don’t have it straight as to which one is which,
but I haven’t had to worry about it since the printers I have owned for
myself both use BCI3e: the s750 (the workhorse which I used for three
years and retired) and the IP3000 (which I bought for like 50 dollars
due to a fatwallet deal with a camera).
Ditch the HP inkjets you
guys own, don’t bother refilling since the ink is different from what
I’ve heard. I have a principled opposition to them since they make so
much profit off of that most expensive fluid in the world.
Glen
Why
pay so high a prices for cartridges and refills. I’ve been buying
import (Chinese?) replacement cartridges for years for $3-5 apiece (for
black) and have never noticed a difference in print quality or picture
quality. I get a “package” deal of 4 black and 2 color cartridges for
$24 and $32 (Epson plain and Epson “smart”). There are several web
sites that sell the exact items under different names, all for pretty
much the same price.
You are paying way too much for your 3rd party replacements! -
AuthorFebruary 15, 2006 at 10:16 AM
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